Sunday, January 23, 2011

Neo City Wagholi opens booking of the 2nd phase!

Property rates at Neo City Wagholi - On Saturday Evening, 22nd January 2011:
Garden Facing Flat Rs. 2,500 per sq.ft. & Non Garden Facing Flat Rs. 2,400!


What would be the property rate on Sunday Evening?


Property Rate for 1st 50 Flats in Neocity Wagholi Pune Nanagr Road - Rs. 2,151 per sq.ft. for the saleable area
Property Rate for 1st 50 Flats in Neocity Wagholi Pune Nanagr Road - Rs. 2,151 per sq.ft. for the saleable area

On Saturday evening, when i was in Neo City(www.neocity.info) - on Nagar Road, behind Jain College, next to Lexicon International School at Wagholi, Pune 411 027 - all 1 BHK Flats in the first phase were booked. Only a few 2 BHK Flats were available. But a huge number of property buyers at the site were interested in the 2 BHK Flats. So, 'by the public demand' the builders of Neo City Wagholi - Pristine Properties + Jalan Group + Maple Group - opened booking of "F Building" of 2 BHK Flats - in the second phase. Of course, at the higher property rate. At Rs. 2500 for the garden facing flats and Rs. 2400 for the Non-garden facing flats.

At these rates, on Saturday evening, the property price of a 2 BHK Flat in the F Building - 590 sq.ft. Carpet Area + Terrace - was approximately Rs. 22.20 lakhs for Non-Garden Facing and Rs. 23 Lakhs, approximately, for the Garden Facing Flats.

Looking at the response to Neo City Wagholi, i guess, today evening, on Sunday, 23rd January 2011, the property rates would rise to Rs. 2600 - 2700 per sq.ft. However, even at those rates the property price of a 2 BHK Flat in Neo City Wagholi would be approximately Rs. 25 Lakhs. Which is quite an attractive property price! Isn't it?

Launch Offer for the first 50 flats in Neo City Wagholi:


1 BHK Flat for Rs. 12.91 lakhs & 2 BHK Flats for Rs. 17.40 lakhs Onwards - ONLY for the first 50 Flats in Neo City Wagholi Pune
1 BHK Flat for Rs. 12.91 lakhs & 2 BHK Flats for Rs. 17.40 lakhs Onwards - ONLY for the first 50 Flats in Neo City Wagholi Pune

The "Launch Offer" - 1 BHK Flat for Rs. 12.91 Lakhs (+ Service Tax + VAT) and a 2 BHK Flat for Rs. 17.40 Lakhs (+ Service Tax + VAT) - was only for the first 50 flats in Neo City Wagholi. However, the first 50 flats were booked in a few minutes. So, the builders of Neo City offered additional 50 flats at the launch property price. In no time, these flats were also booked. So, by noon the booking rate at Neo City Wagholi was Rs. 2350 and 2450 per sq.ft. Around tea time, that property rate was increased to Rs. 2400 & 2500!

Of course, the flats which were opened for booking - at the higher property rate - had a bigger carpet area than the flats in the launch offer. So, obviously, the all inclusive property price of a 1 BHK & a 2 BHK Flat increased substantially.

"Other Facilities" and "Maintenance":


"Other Facilities" add to the property price of your 2 BHK Flat in Neo City Wagholi
"Other Facilities" add to the property price of your 2 BHK Flat in Neo City Wagholi

Besides the current price of approx Rs. 22.20 lakhs (Non-Garden Facing) or Rs. 23 Lakhs (Garden Facing) Flat, you have to pay Rs. 1,50,000 or Rs. 1,00,000 - if you want certain optional "facilities"! Looking at the cars and motorcycles parked at the site office of Neo City Wagholi, for sure, every one must have opted for this "other facility! It means "today's" all inclusive property price of a 2 BHK Flat - of 590 sq.ft. carpet area + terrace - in Neo City Wagholi is in the range of Rs. 23 - 24.5 lakhs!

Of course, in any ways, this is only "todays" property price of a 2 BHK Flat - 590 carpet + terrace - in the F Building at Neo City Wagholi. At the time of possession, for your 2 BHK Flat, you have to pay "maintenance charges" too. At the rate of Rs. 2 per sq.ft. per month, you have to pay maintenance charges for the first 12 months. Which means that you have to pay approximately Rs. 20,000 more!

Booking and Living in Neo City Wagholi:


neo city wagholi pune - new home for a new begining...
neo city wagholi pune - new home for a new begining...

I met Mr. Vijay Jalan, of Jalan Group, one of the partners in Neo City Wagholi and thanked him for launching a 2 BHK Flat in the price range of Rs. 25 Lakhs.

"No need to thank! I haven't forgotten my roots! These are my people. I always build for them," Mr. Jalan said - the same thing he had said at the launch of Aura County at Ubale Nagar, near Kharadi Jakat Naka on Nagar Road.

"OK! In that case, i am sure, i can congratulate you for offering the property at the rate of Rs. 2500 per sq.ft.!," I said.

"Yes! You must congratulate me for the property rate! It's challenge! You know the land rate in Wagholi is 800 rupees and the construction cost is around Rs. 1500 per sq.ft. Even if you consider my average selling price - you will agree that my profit margin is very less than any builder in Pune. Still, i am offering the best possible amenities in Neo City Wagholi - like a mini golf course! Why? Because, I haven't forgotten my roots!," Mr. Vijay Jalan said.

When i was waiting for the bus at Bakuri Phata on Nagar Road, i received a call asking my opinion about investing in Neo City Wagholi. As usual, i asked, "Have you booked or are you planning to?"

"I have already booked!," the caller said.

"Good! Congratulations! Why are you asking?," I said.

"Means - my decision is right. But, my wife is not so sure," the caller said.

"Why? What's her point?," i asked.

"She says - booking is easy - but living there would be difficult!," the caller said.

"She is right! As it is - living is not easy!! I am afraid she must have calculated monthly expenses and EMI. Did she added the 'tanker money' too?," i asked.

"What is 'tanker money'?," the caller asked.

"The money to buy a water tanker!," i said. The caller wanted to talk more but i lost the coverage. Otherwise, i would have called Mr. Vijay Jalan and told him that buying and living is more challenging than building and selling Neo City Wagholi!

Photo-walk of Neo City Wagholi Pune:



View Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 in a larger map


Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - Bakeri Phata on Nagar Road. 1 km from Wagholi Village. Well known for Bharatiya Jain Sanghatana (BJS) (www.bjsindia.org)
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - Bakeri Phata on Nagar Road. 1 km from Wagholi Village. Well known for Bharatiya Jain Sanghatana (BJS) (www.bjsindia.org)

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - Welcome to Neo City!
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - Welcome to Neo City!

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - Neo City is at half a kilometer on this Bakeri Phata. BJS's (Bharatiya Jain Sanghatana) educational institutions are on the both sides of the road.
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - Neo City is at half a kilometer on this Bakeri Phata. BJS's (Bharatiya Jain Sanghatana) educational institutions are on the both sides of the road.

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - obviously you come across lots of students on this road!
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - obviously you come across lots of students on this road!

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - One of the many Jain Colleges
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - One of the many JSPM Colleges

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - JSPM College at Wagholi (www.jspm.edu.in)
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - JSPM College at Wagholi (www.jspm.edu.in)

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - Kolte - Patil Developers' Ivy Estate, row houses, twin bungalows & villas in Wagholi
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - Kolte - Patil Developers' Ivy Estate, row houses, twin bungalows & villas in Wagholi

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - under construction site of Dreams Sankalp (http://www.dreams-group.com/proj_insidepage.php?catid=110)
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - under construction site of Dreams Sankalp (http://www.dreams-group.com/proj_insidepage.php?catid=110)

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - Shantilal Mutha's  Wagholi Educational and Rehabilitation Center (WERC), Pune
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - Shantilal Mutha's  Wagholi Educational and Rehabilitation Center (WERC), Pune

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - A home and water drums
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - A home and water drums

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - way to Neo City
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - way to Neo City

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - newly developed residential project on the way to Neo City
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - newly developed residential project on the way to Neo City

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - the same road goes to Jayawant Shikshan Prasarak Mandal's Wagholi Educational Complex (www.jspm.edu.in) and Dreams Sankalp (www.dreams-group.com)
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - the same road goes to Jayawant Shikshan Prasarak Mandal's Wagholi Educational Complex (www.jspm.edu.in) and Dreams Sankalp (www.dreams-group.com)

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - digital images of Neo City are all over the road!
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - digital images of Neo City are all over the road!

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - site hoarding of Neo City (www.neocity.info)
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - site hoarding of Neo City (www.neocity.info)

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - huge pandal for the launch event of Neo City
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - huge pandal for the launch event of Neo City

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - he looks after the farm on the opposite side of the Neo City
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - he looks after the Satav Farm which is on the opposite side of the Neo City

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - Welcome to Neo City!
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - Welcome to Neo City!

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - site office and sample flat
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - site office and sample flat

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - huge response!
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - huge response!

2 BHK Flat - 590 sq.ft. + Terrace - in Neo City Wagholi Pune
2 BHK Flat - 590 sq.ft. + Terrace - in Neo City Wagholi Pune

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - 2 bhk sample flat - living - 10 feet x 13 feet
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - 2 bhk sample flat - living - 10 feet x 13 feet

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - 2 bhk sample flat - terrace - 11 feet x 7 feet!
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - 2 bhk sample flat - terrace - 11 feet x 7 feet!

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - 2 bhk sample flat - kitchen cum dining - 13 feet x 8 feet
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - 2 bhk sample flat - kitchen cum dining - 13 feet x 8 feet

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - 2 bhk sample flat - dry balcony - 6 feet 6 inches x 3 feet 6 inches
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - 2 bhk sample flat - dry balcony - 6 feet 6 inches x 3 feet 6 inches

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - 2 bhk sample flat - children's bedroom - 10 feet x 10 feet
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - 2 bhk sample flat - children's bedroom - 10 feet x 10 feet

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - 2 bhk sample flat - common toilet - 7 feet x 4 feet
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - 2 bhk sample flat - common toilet - 7 feet x 4 feet

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - 2 bhk sample flat - master-bedroom - 10 feet x 12 feet
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - 2 bhk sample flat - master-bedroom - 10 feet x 12 feet

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - 2 bhk sample flat - attached toilet of the master bedroom - 7 feet x 4 feet 6 inches
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - 2 bhk sample flat - attached toilet of the master bedroom - 7 feet x 4 feet 6 inches

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - property buyers admiring the 2 bhk sample flat
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - property buyers admiring the 2 bhk sample flat

Neo City Wagholi Pune (www.neocity.info) Layout
Neo City Wagholi Pune (www.neocity.info) Layout

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - 3 phases of Neo City
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - 3 phases of Neo City

Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - Mr. Vijay Jalan (in suit) and his elder brother at the site
Visit to Neo City 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Wagholi Pune 411 027 - Mr. Vijay Jalan (in suit) and his elder brother at the site

Contact Neo City Wagholi:


Site Address:
Gat No. 735, Behind Jain College,
Next to Lexicon International School, Wagholi, Pune - 411 027

Ph.: +91 88888 11101/2

sales@neocity.info

www.neocity.info


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16 comments:

  1. [ RaviK ] "The money to buy a water tanker!," i said."

    Dear Ravi,
    Even though water tankers are still required even schemes of your beloved builders like Paranjape(Crystal Garden, Camellia, Magnolia, Blue RIdge), Aditya (COmfort Zone), Naiknavare, ABIL (Megapolis), Kumar (BanerPashan LR), I found it strange that thought of water tanker never came to your mind while writing articles (ads) for those builders...

    Any specific reason why those builders were spared?

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  2. It's not about the builders. It's about the buyers. Those who buy and live in the project pay for the water tanker. Right?

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  3. Ravi,

    You fully understand what my question is.
    Then, why are you giving such unrelated answer?

    My question in simple english is :
    Why this tanker issue was did not appear in your blogs of your pet builders?

    Even a 5th grader will understand my question now.

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  4. If you want to visit the blogs about the water tanker issue in PMC, please, visit these links:

    1) TUESDAY, JULY 28, 2009

    Pune Municipal Corporation's Water Affidavits' policy will go under scanner - DNA

    http://ravikarandeekarsblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/pune-municipal-corporations-water.html

    2) MONDAY, JULY 27, 2009

    Bhusari Colony on Paud Road, Kothrud, was freed of tanker lobby - "Water Affidavit" on DNA

    http://ravikarandeekarsblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/bhusari-colony-on-paud-road-kothrud-was.html

    3) WEDNESDAY, JULY 29, 2009

    People move in first; roads, water follow: Credai-Pune

    http://ravikarandeekarsblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/people-move-in-first-roads-water-follow.html

    4) WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 19, 2009

    Faulty pipeline, illegal connections, seepage lead to water cut - Nagrik Chetna Manch Study

    http://ravikarandeekarsblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/faulty-pipeline-illegal-connections.html

    5) SUNDAY, JULY 26, 2009

    Nyati Enclave residents nail PMC's lie on 'water affidavits' - Ritu Goyal Harish

    http://ravikarandeekarsblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/nyati-enclave-residents-nail-pmcs-lie.html

    6) SUNDAY, AUGUST 9, 2009

    Show me water. Show me water affidavit.

    http://ravikarandeekarsblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/show-me-water-show-me-water-affidavit.html

    7) SUNDAY, DECEMBER 20, 2009

    15 villages - including Yeolewdi, Ambegaon khurd, Mangnewadi, Holkarwadi, Avtade, Handewadi - demand water from Pune Municipal Corporation
    "Our Resources Depleting Due To Urbanization"

    http://ravikarandeekarsblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/15-villages-including-yeolewdi-ambegaon.html

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  5. Dear wi-sec, you make me complete!

    If i have missed any point, you contribute in the comment - for example about water tanker - and add value to the blog.

    Because, you want to share useful information. Like you have already done your comment by talking about water tanker issue in these projects.

    Now, question is what is the difference between these two issues - one in PMC & the other in Wagholi Gram Panchayat and can we find a solution?

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  6. Nice try Ravi. You are now eligible to contest the next corporation elections as you have proved your credentials by ignoring the real question from wi-sec and turning it into something else and irrelevant.

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  7. [RaviK] Now, question is what is the difference between these two issues - one in PMC & the other in Wagholi Gram Panchayat and can we find a solution?

    Simple solution I can think of is: residents should unite to form a sizable vote bank and give 'bamboo' to local corporator.
    Threaten him that if the issue is not resolved, we will not vote for him in upcoming elections.

    We are already trying this in our neighborhood.

    Other one is to go to media, e.g. your blogs.

    Idea for next blog Ravi...

    Write about water issues in projects which I had mentioned earlier.

    Since you are a professional in RE and expert blogger who has open eye and ear towards issues "aam aadmi" like me faces, I would let you handle this professionally.

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  8. Hello Mistral! What was the "real question"? I didn't feel that the real question was about the water issue! I thought the issue was "me"! He was talking about my favorite and not so favorite builders. He was only interested in criticizing me.

    For a fact, there are certain limitations on me, but not on you. Sometimes, i only open the topic and expect you to contribute! Because, the blog is a 2 way communication. If i miss or ignore something - you are free to contribute.

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  9. Hello Wi-sec! Thanks for suggesting - "Write about water issues in projects which I had mentioned earlier."

    You know? Even the builders suggest me to write about all issues but buying and selling of real estate!

    See, i am real estate salesman. Not a social activist. There are many journalist who write about these issues. DNA has published the series of articles on civic issues in Pune.

    Considering my experience and expertise, i believe that i should focus on buying, selling and development of Pune real estate.

    Sorry, to disappoint you. I am very focused.

    At the same time, remember that i am born and brought up in Pune. In school, i have studied civic science and in college politics. Last many years, I am living in Kothrud. So, my ideas about PMC, civic infrastructure and role of a corporator and citizen are different than yours.

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  10. this is rubbish.....RK , beleive it or not but you are part of some lobby which uses cyber space to promote properties......please stop faking ang promoting specinfic builders... be true to yourself,,,,

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  11. Dear Ravirs101, yes, i can understand you.

    There many readers like you who feel that writing about what's happening in Pune real estate market means 'promoting'.

    Generally, your type of readers firmly believe that the readers can't 'read between the lines'.

    Whereas, i respect the intelligence of Pune property buyers and feel sad when someone don't acknowledge it.

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  12. I went to see "Aura County /Signature" next to Kharadi ,exactly as Jagatnaka
    as it`s called ,price & location seems attractive Rs 3430 for 2BHK, and they
    call it a new launch ,where as the same price was advertised in the month
    of September 2011.

    Its good for the investors who invested early last year @ Rs 2200 -2300 /sq feet. Not sure how much could be the appreciation in next couple of years
    if I not going to live there. This comes under Graham Panchayat not the any
    PMC yet.

    More over the other project called as "Neo City" in deep whagholi is still fighting for the NA status ,not sure if the "Aura City" is NA or not.

    But no doubt this is a good investment for those who will be staying outthere
    ,could not be a short term plan.

    Not sure about the claim that over 90 flats were sold in the very first day:)
    .If so are the buyers not even thinking of the basic sanity before investing.

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  13. I want to buy a 1 bhk flat in a cooperative society
    (ready possession) with good amenities , falling in budget line of Rs.3000/- per sq ft, max to max. Rs. 3300/-. I request you to kindly suggest me good projects from reliable builders in Pune preferably near to Lohegaon, Wagholi, Kharadi, Dhanori or any other areas near to these locations.
    Awaiting for a quick reply.
    Thanks
    Somesh Nautiyal
    9370798705
    somesh.nautiyal@gmail.com

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  14. Hi ...I am planning to buy a flat in Pristine Neo City..Cana nybody share their experience with Neo City...

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  15. All the residents of NEO city.. come join hands and be closer under one roof here:

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/445805132189095/

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