Wednesday, May 23, 2012

Review of Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Manjri Budruk Pune

Grow up, guys! Stop playing with inflated toys!!


Most of the launch offers are as good as pre-launch offers. Half baked ideas. Packed in glossy full page ads. Only to collect your booking amount.

You are not given any authentic information. You are not shown any documentary proof. Sanctioned plans. Approvals. Legal documents.

Floor plans in the brochure don't have actual dimensions of the rooms. Many times the sales' plans in the brochure are different than the architect's drawings. Mostly working drawings are not ready. So, what would be built may be different than what is presented to you at the time of booking.

But you are supposed to trust the builder. Why? Kids trust & respect grownups. You pay booking amount. Even your own contribution. Without asking any questions. What if you want to cancel? You are punished!

Come on!! We are not kids!!!

Inflated Toys for Kids - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Booking a Property at the Launch or Pre-launch offer

All Inclusive Launch Property Prices of
1 BHK Flat - 486 Carpet + 27 Dry Balcony + 40 Terrace - Rs. 28,41,024
1 BHK Flat - 486 Carpet + 27 Dry Balcony + 49 Terrace - Rs. 28,85,996
1 BHK Flat, 486 Carpet + 27 Dry Balcony + 40 Terrace, All inclusive Property Price Rs. 28,41,024 at Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
1 BHK Flat, 486 Carpet + 27 Dry Balcony + 40 Terrace, All inclusive Property Price Rs. 28,41,024 at Dreams Avani at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307

2 BHK Flat - 628 Carpet + 27 Dry Balcony + 35 Terrace - Rs. 37,30,192
2 BHK Flat, 628 Carpet + 27 Dry Balcony + 35 Terrace, All Inclusive Property Price Rs. 37,30,192 at Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
2 BHK Flat, 628 Carpet + 27 Dry Balcony + 35 Terrace, All Inclusive Property Price Rs. 37,30,192 at Dreams Avani at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307

at Dreams Avani, behind Dreams Nandini, on Shewalewadi Road,
between Manjri Stud Farm & Shewalewadi Octroi Post,
off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk, Pune 412 307:



View Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307 in a larger map

Hair-Raising Experience!


I stopped at Shewalewadi Octroi Post and asked about Dreams Avani. Dreams Group's (www.dreamsgroup.in) newly project of 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats at Manjri Budruk. Of course, before asking the address, i didn't forget to say - "Manjri is developing very fast!"

"From where have you come and for what?," asked the Octroi officer and invited me to come & sit in the shade.

"I am Ravi Karandeekar from Kothrud and visiting Manjri to buy a flat," I introduced myself.

"You are late! In the last 1 year property rates in Manjri have shot up! A year ago the property rates were around 2600 - 2800 - now, above 3400 - 3500 rupees per sq ft!," the Octroi Officer said.

"Really? Still, i hope, a 2 BHK Flat in Manjri can fit in my budget!," i said.

"Certainly! However, have you thought of what will happen to you if you live in your '2 BHK Flat in Manjri' for a year?," the Octroi Officer asked.

"Means? What will happen to me?," i asked.

"After a year in Manjri, you will be a different person! Your hair will become hard - as hard as a shoe brush. Your skin will become dead dry. And you will start looking like a hairy wild animal!," the Octroi Officer said.

"In short, you will look like him! You know what? The truck drivers fear him like anything!," pointing at his colleague, the Octroi Officer said.

"Oh My God! This is more frightening than the property rates!! Why one becomes a different animal in a year in Manjri? ," I asked.

"Because, Manjri has hard water! So, buy a flat in the project where the builder has installed a water softening plant!! Otherwise, well water will turn your life into hell!," the Octroi Officer said.

The Train Called The Dreams Avani Manjri Budurk:


Dreams Nandini - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Dreams Nandini - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
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Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Typical (Odd) Floor Plan of Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Typical (Odd) Floor Plan of Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307

Dreams Avani is located on Shewalewadi Road. Behind Dreams Nandini. Under construction Dreams Nandini is an imposing semicircular 10 story building. Whereas, Dreams Avani is like a train. A 10 story building on the narrow strip of plot. Dreams Avani is divided into 3 wings - A, B, & C. Each wing, of course, has the same plan. There are 4 flats on each floor. 2 units each of 2 BHK & 1 BHK Flats. Floor lobby is narrow and long - 25 feet 4 inches x 8 feet 6 inches with two lifts - one passenger & one stretcher & 2 staircases, as per the latest development rules.

To avoid south entrance, a 1 BHK Flat in the A Wing of Dreams Avani Manjri has an entrance lobby. So, now, a 1 BHK Flat has east or west entrance. Whereas to accommodate the second bedroom, a north entrance of a 2 BHK Flat in the A Wing of Dreams Avani Manjri also has an entrance lobby.

I liked the 1 BHK Flat in Dreams Avani Manjri. A 2 BHK Flat of 628 sq.ft. Carpet is nothing but a poor compromise. Mainly, because the position of the second bedroom & the common toilet in a 2 BHK Flat. Both are at the diagonally opposite corners of the 2 BHK Flat. It means that after taking a bath in the common toilet (4'6" x 6'), your mother has to cross the dining & living - the entire length of your flat - 23 feet - to reach the second bedroom to wear dry clothes. This is shameful and unacceptable when you pay Rs. 38 Lakhs for this 2 BHK Flat in Dreams Avani Manjri.

The living, dining & kitchen with a dry balcony in 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flat is of the same size. The attached terraces are not exploitative - but of a moderate size. Separate W C & Bath, 12 feet x 10 feet 9 inches bedroom with a niche for a wardrobe makes a 1 BHK Flat in Dreams Avani worth considering! Of course, if you don't mind paying the property price of Rs. 28.5 Lakhs for 486 sq.ft. Carpet Area with 27 sq.ft. Dry Balcony & a Terrace!

Glamour vs. Ground Reality:


Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307 - Launch Ad in TOI 19-5-2012
Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307 - Launch Ad in TOI 19-5-2012

On 19th May 2012, full page launch ads of Dreams Avani Manjri were released in most of the local newspapers in Pune. The launch ad in Sakal had the names of banks - Bank of Baroda, State Bank of India & LIC - offering home loans for Dreams Avani Manjri. But the launch ad in The Times of India didn't have the names of these banks!

The pandal erected at the office & the site must have cost around 3 - 4 lakhs. In all, Dreams Group must have spent around 80 to 90 lakhs for the launch of Dreams Avani. Of course, the old but presentable entrance road, sample flat and the site office of Dreams Nandini saved a lot. Otherwise, the launch of Dreams Avani Manjri would have cost more than 1.5 crore!

I am sure, many property buyers would have been impressed by this glamorous presentation. However, out of 44 units - 22 each of 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats - opened for booking - not many were booked at the launch. Because, ample choice was available on the next day of the launch. It means that a very few property buyers could make up their mind to book a flat in Dreams Avani by visiting the sample flat of Dreams Nandini Manjri - which has a completely different plan!

At the site of Dreams Avani, i met a couple. They were in a dilemma. The full page ads of Dreams Avani made them visit Manjri Budruk. Otherwise, they have finalized a 1 BHK Flat behind The Gliding Center at Hadapsar. At Kale Padal Hadapsar in Pune Municipal Corporation. That 1 BHK Flat was fitting in their budget - Rs. 23 Lakhs, all inclusive property price.

"Is it worth paying Rs. 5 Lakhs more for Dreams Avani?," they asked me.

"Paying less is always better! 5 Lakhs means 5,000 less EMI for the next 20 years!! Why are you considering paying more for Dreams Avani?," i asked.

"Not only Dreams Avani - but this stretch of Shewalewadi Road looks attractive. Look at these neighboring projects - Dreams Nandini is imposing, Sampanna Homes have shopping and all, GSK Morning Dew looks good, upcoming Gloriya is impressive - it looks like a developed part of a city - not a village - whereas - there isn't anything to be proud of about owning a home in the neighborhood behind The Gliding Center - at Kale Padal!," he said.

"And what about the plan?," i asked.

"1 BHK in Dreams Avani is too good - for sure, this property will appreciate more - that's why we are reconsidering & comparing!," she said.

"You think too much about the property, location & appreciation - better focus on you - consider which flat will give you better life - more comfort, more convenience - which will have good water - safe to drink & will not harm your skin & hair!," i said.

Contact for Dreams Avani, behind Dreams Nandini, on Shewalewadi Road, between Manjri Stud Farm & Shewalewadi Octroi Post, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk, Pune 412 307:


93701 501 66 / 69 / info@dreamsgroup.in / www.dreamsgroup.in

Dreams Avani, behind Dreams Nandini, on Shewalewadi Road, between Manjri Stud Farm & Shewalewadi Octroi Post, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk, Pune 412 307 - Photo-Walk:


Krishi Utpanna Bazaar Samiti -  Annasaheb Magar Bazaar Manjri - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Krishi Utpanna Bazaar Samiti - Annasaheb Magar Bazaar Manjri - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Manjri Stud Farm on Pune Solapur Highway - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Manjri Stud Farm on Pune Solapur Highway - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Bungalow Plots near Manjri Railway Station - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Bungalow Plots near Manjri Railway Station - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Launching on 25th May 2012 - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Launching on 25th May 2012 - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Joshi Wadewale - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Joshi Wadewale - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
PMC's Shewalwadi Octroi Post No 6 - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
PMC's Shewalwadi Octroi Post No 6 - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Hoarding of Gloriya - 1 BHK 2 BHK Flats at Manjri - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Hoarding of Gloriya - 1 BHK 2 BHK Flats at Manjri - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Shiv Sai Complex Manjri - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Shiv Sai Complex Manjri - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Welcome to Gram Panchayat Shewalewadi! - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Welcome to Gram Panchayat Shewalewadi! - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
ShewaleWadi Road - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
ShewaleWadi Road - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Approach road of Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Approach road of Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Entrance - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Entrance - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Internal Road of Dreams Avani & GSK Morning Dew - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Internal Road of Dreams Avani & GSK Morning Dew - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Posters of Dreams Nandini Manjri - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Posters of Dreams Nandini Manjri - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Remains of the launch event - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Remains of the launch event - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Sample Flat of Dreams Nandini Manjri - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Sample Flat of Dreams Nandini Manjri - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Sample Flat of Dreams Nandini Manjri - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Sample Flat of Dreams Nandini Manjri - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Sample Flat of Dreams Nandini Manjri - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Sample Flat of Dreams Nandini Manjri - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Entrance Road - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Entrance Road & GSK Morning Dew - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Workers Camp & Dreams Nandini - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Workers Camp & Dreams Nandini - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Open Plot & Neighbors - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Open Plot & Neighbors - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Site of C, B & A Buildings of Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Site of C, B & A Buildings of Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Behind Dreams Nandini - The Site of Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Behind Dreams Nandini - The Site of Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Dreams Nandini - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Dreams Nandini - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Sampanna Homes Manjri, opposite Dreams Nandini - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Sampanna Homes Manjri, opposite Dreams Nandini - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Gloriya, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats next to Sapanna Homes Manjri - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Gloriya, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats next to Sapanna Homes Manjri - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
GSK Morning Dew, next to Dreams Nandini - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
GSK Morning Dew, next to Dreams Nandini - Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
ShewaleWadi Road at Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalwadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
ShewaleWadi Road at Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307
Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307!
Visit Dreams Avani, 1 BHK & 2 BHK Flats on Shewalewadi Road, near Manjri Stud Farm, off Pune Solapur Highway, at Manjri Budruk Pune, 412 307!

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2 comments:

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